Who are we standing with when we stand with Ukraine?

By Dark Politricks

At the beginning of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, it seemed that some sense prevailed among Western leaders not to engage fully in the war if it led to a full-blown NATO v Russian world war.

However as the war progressed, and as hopeless “battlefield” experts kept claiming that Russia was on the defence and almost at the point of being beaten. Claims that if only more weapons could get into Ukrainian hands, then the war’s tide could turn, got louder and louder.

The fact that it is actually a proxy war being run by the US and NATO members from the western parts of Ukraine, which they seem to be able to enter and leave by whim, is a fact left out of many people’s news on Ukraine’s fight with Russia. 

Whilst it may have been a strong and proud Ukraine, led by the actor Zelenskyy, who wanted to win the war with Russia. It is actually the west, NATO, the US, and UK, who are directing the Ukrainian forces from their bases on the edges of the country. A fact that has not gone amiss by Putin and one that has been broadcast many times, for anyone who wants to know the full truth about the invasion.

This is just one report from a French journalist who went to Ukraine only to find out it was a war being run by NATO and the US, not Ukraine!

This is a foolish analysis of the war as many experts have claimed, to the deaf ears of those who pin flags to their Twitter accounts, and are proud “to be with Ukraine” – whatever that means. 

Does it mean to fight Russia to the last Ukrainian, as the country is split into two, with the Donbass and everything East of Odessa to become Russian, and a western husk left for any returning Ukrainians?

Does it mean to pour more and more heavy weaponry into the country, despite the US not knowing where or even caring where it ends up. From one analysis, only 10% of all western arms are getting anywhere near the battlefields as Russian intelligence allows them in only to blow up incoming western imports, as well as foreign legion training centres. They also blow up the railroads that would be needed to allow the transport of the arms eastwards where they are needed.

Just a few hours ago on Ukrainian TV it was reported that Russia had hit a “hangar full of European and US weapons”. Putin also claimed that “all objectives will be met” as he warns of “lightning fast” retaliation against any country that interferes.

Also, recently, Russia warned the UK of an immediate and “proportional response” if it continues direct provocation of Ukraine and warning of the likelihood of nuclear war if NATO members continue to interfere in the war.

Also, a former head of the Polish army has accused Boris Johnson of “tempting evil” by revealing that Ukrainian soldiers were being trained in Poland in how to use British anti-aircraft missiles before returning with them to Ukraine. Gen Waldemar Skrzypczak, also a former junior defence minister, complained that a loose-lipped prime minister had revealed too much to the Russians and that his remarks risked the safety of the soldiers involved. 

So more money and western weaponry go down the Ukrainian drain, and we are stupid to think that the Russians would not be able to detect and destroy any heavy weapons we try to smuggle into the country. 

All the western meddling of sending SAS saboteurs into Lviv, Ukraine, and NATO, who is really running the war, commanding Ukrainian attacks into Russia, is only making the day that a proxy war in which we are indebting Ukraine for decades to western banks whilst filling the coffers of the MIC, turns into a full-blown war.

As RT is banned in most places, I have screenshotted their latest headline piece which warns of a nuclear conflict if we continue to fight Russia through Ukraine.

So does standing with Ukraine mean allowing ourselves to be turned into shadows on the pavement due to our political leader’s long-held desire to fight Russia? 

Their new Satan2 missile has already been shown off to warn us that they can hit us anywhere on earth, defeating any anti-missile defences, and turn a small country like the UK into atomic dust instantly.

Does it mean to stand with the AZOV NAZI brigade, a term that was in all Western media before the war, but now excuses are made for their views, despite training videos of them all over social media appearing with NAZI symbols on their coats as they get trained by western forces.

Does it mean to stand with a definitely non-democratic society as Ukraine plainly is? 

A corrupt political society that has been infected with racist ideology to the point that even the Jewish President is following the orders of Right-Wing, anti-semites, as he bans all other political parties, imprisons political leaders, prevents free speech and denies Russian speakers in the east basic human rights as even, ex Presidential candidate and serving US medic Tulsi Gabbard tweeted recently.

…the head of the opposition political party which came in 2nd place in the election, and arrested and jailed its leaders (exactly what Putin has been accused of doing)—all with the support of U.S.— Tulsi Gabbard 🌺 (@TulsiGabbard) February 10, 2022

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The usual solid allies in Israel are also not happy with the US support of Ukrainian NAZI’s who the world went to war to stop in the 30’s and 40’s as the US lifts bans on funding neo-NAZI Ukrainian groups. 

As the Jerusalem Post said in a recent article:

“Last June, Congress passed a resolution intended to block American military funding for Ukraine from being used to provide training or weaponry for the Azov Battalion, an independent unit that had been integrated into the former Soviet Republic’s national guard and was taking part in operations against Russian- backed rebels.”

“Called a “neo-Nazi paramilitary militia” by Congressmen John Conyers Jr. and Ted Yoho, who co-sponsored the bipartisan amendment, the battalion has been a source of controversy since its inception. However, Congress is reported to have recently repealed its ban on a Ukrainian militia accused of being neo-Nazi, opening the way for American military assistance.“

So does it mean to stand with an army full of NAZI’s being commanded by US and NATO from the shadows, who commit war crimes on video such as the killing of Russian POWS. 

Or does it mean to stand with the “National Police” (ex AZOV Battalion members), who publicly announced a “cleansing” of the town of Bucha, in which bodies left on the street for a supposed two weeks were not mentioned when the town was reclaimed but then days later when the Russians had long left the town, seemingly freshly killed bodies appeared in videos on social media with claims of war crimes being laid at Russia’s feet.

All the bodies had white bands on, either tying their hands behind them or on their arms, some with Russian aid packages by their sides, both clear signs of retribution against Russian sympathisers who took aid from the Russian forces, and a false flag attack that only Ukraine gains from where Russian denials are heard by no-one.

New Srebrenica. The Ukrainian city of Bucha was in the hands of 🇷🇺 animals for several weeks. *Local civillians were being executed arbitrarily*, some with hands tied behind their backs, their bodies scattered in the streets of the city.#RussianWarCrimes pic.twitter.com/outzejdidO— Defence of Ukraine (@DefenceU) April 2, 2022

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Now that this and other war crimes blamed on Russia were debunked by video, and the killings of POWS were allowed onto social media, the “Democratic Ukraine” we stand with, has made it illegal to film Russian attacks, lest they be debunked by online sleuths. Such as the backward tracking of a missile attack at Kramatorsk train station.

From one source:

“The relationship of the booster when it came to earth, when assessed to the impact zone of the cluster munitions, provides a reverse azimuth which, even when factoring in a generous margin of error for potential drift, points to territory that was under the exclusive control of the Ukrainian government, which means that there is little doubt that the missile that struck the Kramatorsk train station was fired by a launcher under the operational control of the 19th Missile Brigade, Ukraine’s only Tochka-U-equipped unit….. a forensic evaluation of the missile debris clearly shows that it was launched by the 19th Ukrainian Missile Brigade, based near Dobropolia, some 45 kilometres from Kramatorsk.“

Of course, this is denied by Bellingcat that well known source of US/UK intelligence disinformation, who aided extremists in Syria and specialises in Russian attack pieces. 

This is a source that must be overlooked, just like the BBC, UK State TV if ever one existed if we are also to overlook other “biased” sources such as RT.

Does standing with Ukraine mean standing with the journalists who dare speak out about Ukrainian crimes and then just disappear or turn up dead? 

Just recently one journalist, Gonzalo Lira, disappeared for a week, only to return without his computer or phone, not allowed to tell anyone what had happened but insinuating that he was being investigated for something, and maybe even tried in a AZOV court for speaking about what he saw on the ground in Ukraine? 

So why are we standing with Ukraine?

Well as the US Pentagon is only too happy to admit, it is to give Russia such a bloody nose and to kill as many Russians as possible. Just some of these quotes:

On 24 February, during a White House press conference on the first day of Russia’s invasion, Biden said sanctions are designed not to prevent invasion but to punish Russia after invading “…so the people of Russia know what he has brought on them. That is what this is all about.”, this is despite of course the obvious fact by high inflation numbers and increasing heating costs that Europe is paying a high price to “punish Putin”.

On 27 February, James Heappey, UK Minister for the Armed Forces, wrote in the Daily Telegraph: “His failure must be complete; Ukrainian sovereignty must be restored, and the Russian people empowered to see how little he cares for them. In showing them that, Putin’s days as President will surely be numbered… He’ll lose power and he won’t get to choose his successor.” 

Finally, on 1 March, Boris Johnson’s spokesperson said the sanctions on Russia “we are introducing, that large parts of the world are introducing, are to bring down the Putin regime.”

So whilst anybody can sympathise with the displaced and killed Ukrainians who had nothing to do with Putin’s invasion. It is totally stupid to believe that the act of invading Ukraine was totally irrational to anybody but those still sucking the teat of US/UK mainstream media. 

The war began after the US led Maiden coup in 2014, and the people of Donbass have been fighting a civil war for their rights ever since.

This article by Retired Swiss Military-Intelligence Officer, Jacques Baud, gives some context to those who think the war only started a month and a bit ago. 

Here is an extract:

“The referendums conducted by the two self-proclaimed Republics of Donetsk and Lugansk in May 2014, were not referendums of “independence” (независимость), as some unscrupulous journalists have claimed, but referendums of “self-determination” or “autonomy” (самостоятельность). The qualifier “pro-Russian” suggests that Russia was a party to the conflict, which was not the case, and the term “Russian speakers” would have been more honest. Moreover, these referendums were conducted against the advice of Vladimir Putin.”

“In fact, these Republics were not seeking to separate from Ukraine, but to have a status of autonomy, guaranteeing them the use of the Russian language as an official language — because the first legislative act of the new government resulting from the American-sponsored overthrow of [the democratically-elected] President Yanukovych, was the abolition, on February 23, 2014, of the Kivalov-Kolesnichenko law of 2012 that made Russian an official language in Ukraine. A bit like if German putschists decided that French and Italian would no longer be official languages in Switzerland.”

“This decision caused a storm in the Russian-speaking population. The result was fierce repression against the Russian-speaking regions (Odessa, Dnepropetrovsk, Kharkov, Lugansk and Donetsk) which was carried out beginning in February 2014 and led to a militarization of the situation and some horrific massacres of the Russian population (in Odessa and Mariupol, the most notable)…….” read the rest of the article here.

Now if you want to stand with “Ukraine“, then really you should qualify what you mean. I stand with the Ukrainian people who have been displaced and killed by the war but I also stand with the Ukrainians in the Donbass region who have been discriminated against, massacred, and attacked by the NAZI element in the Ukrainian army, that many like to overlook when it comes to this war.

I don’t stand with Putin, but I stand with the poor people of Ukraine who will be indebted to US and international banks like the IMF for decades to come for all the weapons poured into the country, only to be mostly destroyed on delivery by the Russians. 

If you think war debt is nothing to worry about just realise that it was only under Gordon Brown’s rule as Prime Minister of the UK, that we paid back in full the debt we owed to the USA for “help” during World War II.

Of course, the most powerful country on earth is only too happy to help in a war, especially against an enemy of their own, if it means that their own weapons companies get paid, and countries are indebted for decades due to this “help“. 

However, I think that we are getting too near the edge of what can be considered acceptable help for Ukraine when their soldiers are stuck in Mariupol, told not to surrender and to fight to their deaths, as no help, weapons, or food comes, and Russian shells rain down on them mercilessly.

I don’t want to be involved in the West’s proxy war with Russia, where they want to fight to the last Ukrainian, not helping those left to rot in the Azovstal factories, as US and UK politicians debate their next attack on Russia. 

If it was left to Ukraine, with no western interference, then the peace talks which the Russians started at the same time as their invasion would have concluded by now and there would be some sort of settlement. It is the west who is continuing the slaughter in Ukraine and no one should be in doubt of this fact. 

I leave you with this video from the Redacted YouTube channel about the likelihood of this proxy war turning hot as the MIC makes a mint from the selling of weapons to Ukraine.

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By Dark Politricks 

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Is the MH17 Malaysian Plane Crash a big stitch up to get us into WWIII?

Is the MH17 Malaysian Plane Crash a big stitch up to get us into WWIII?

By Dark Politricks

Now believe it or not, I’m not a CIA stooge for writing about Putin’s involvement in the Ryazan apartment bombings that brought him to power in the corrupt days of post USSR. This was during a time where US economic hitmen were running the show, and the majority of KGB became the Russian Mafia.

This is what someone called me on my article about the bombings.

Neither am I a pro-Russian, FSB agent, who hates America and only believes anything Russia says as many others claim on my other postings just because I post videos from RT.com. It’s a bit hard to have it both ways.

This is probably due to the fact that I like to get my news from multiple sources and then make up my own mind. The problem with US mainstream media is that is only shows the US perspective and never alternative views.

Both Democrats and Republicans fight over tiny inconsequential differences whilst both agreeing on:

• War as a first resort
• Using CIA stooges and agents to other throw “unfriendly” governments
• The use of drones to kill terrorists AND US citizens.
• The NDAA
• The PATRIOT ACT
• The militarisation of US Police Forces
• The 1% taking all the wealth and being paid to by US tax payers as they are thrown out their homes, and all the other major crimes that should be divisive topics across political lines.

So as much as I wish someone paid me a few bucks to write articles for this blog they don’t.

Why do I do it? Because I believe in always telling my own point of view whether others like it or not and not following the established line when it comes to events of immense proportions.

You read both sides of the story from mainstream to alternative news, from “left-wing” to “right” and pro war / anti-war sides before coming to your OWN conclusion. Therefore anyone who wants to get a fair and balanced view on the recent shooting down of Flight MH17 needs to watch both Russian media reports and Western media reports before deciding for themselves which seem the most logical, rational and less likely to lead us to World War III.

The Downing of Flight MH17

First here is a Russian news report in which Russia and their allies in the East are begging for an investigation into the crash.

And here is a US report in which John McCain is literally itching to start a new war with Russia. Psychopaths often end up in positions of power remember.

Despite both Kiev and anti Kiev troops denying shooting down the plane. In John McCain’s mind it doesn’t matter who shot it down as all roads lead to Putin drawing the blood from the victims by his own cold hands.

Even Barack Obama who claims the US has firm evidence that the plane was shot down by a missile which was fired from an area controlled by anti-Kiev fighters agrees with Putin’s calls to conduct transparent investigation and says it’s too early to say who and why shot down the plane.

Both Putin and Obama are agreeing that a ceasefire needs to be implemented so that a proper investigation can be held before responsibility can be laid at anyone’s door. This is a very sensible claim seeing that some questions need to be answered first by the Ukrainian Air Authorities such as:

Why did the plane fly over a war zone?

Why did the Ukrainian air traffic controllers asked the plane to fly lower over the war zone area?

This comes directly from the planes own company.

 

Was it in the hope that the separatists would think it was a Ukrainian transport plane and shoot it down? It reminds me of that time when Blair and Bush talked about getting Saddam Hussein to “start” the Iraq war by luring him into downing a plane painted in UN colours.

Things like this do happen and it seems our leaders do talk about them. This includes Dick Cheney who had a crazy plan to stage a shoot up in the Straits of Hormuz between fake Republican Army boats and US ships, all so that they could blame Iran and start another war.

Here is investigative journalist Seymour Hersh talking about the plot.

And lets not forget that we have already heard claims that the new Kiev government is prepared to use false flag attacks to get its way as the leaked phone call between the Estonian Foreign Minister and EU Foreign Minister showed.

You can read more about it here or even on NSBC but you can listen to the two leaders discuss the false flag attacks below.

So with Kiev already using dirty tactics we have to ask ourselves “how far would they go” to get legitimacy to “cleanse” the East of Russian speakers as some Ukrainian Government ministers have even gone so far to say.

Even the Ukrainian Defense Minister has publicly voiced his plan to corral the citizens of Donbass into special “filtration” camps prior to forcibly resettling them in different parts of Ukraine. Even the Ukrainian Prime Minister Yatsenyuk declared the pro-federalists in the East to be “subhuman”.

And what about the massacre in the Trade Union building in Odessa that killed between 50 and 120 people.

How mad did the west go about the Ukrainians killing innocent over a 100 men, children and women.

Not far it seems from their reporting.

1. CNN: It is unclear how the fire began, but it comes amid ongoing clashes between pro-Kiev and pro-Russian protesters.
2. Globe & Mail: … most caught in a building set on fire after pro-Russian activists and supporters of Ukrainian unity fought running battles across the southern port city.
3. BBC: At least 31 people have been killed in a fire in an official building amid violence in Odessa in south-west Ukraine, the interior ministry says. The deaths came as pro-Russian protesters clashed with Ukrainian government supporters in the city.
4. Global Post: At least 30 people died in the port city of Odessa on Friday, most of them from smoke inhalation after a building caught fire amid violent protests.
5. USA Today:Police in the Black Sea port of Odessa said late Friday that 31 people died when a union hall was set ablaze as pro-Russia demonstrators battled in the streets with Ukrainian loyalists.

Not exactly the same sort of rhetoric used when pro Kiev fighters, bombing, shelling and killing Eastern Ukrainians are themselves killed in return is it?

Lets hear what they said when two fighter jets who were probably on a mission to unleash more bombs on defenceless Ukrainians were shot down by the separatists.

1. NYTimes: The Ukrainian government said on Thursday that a Russian military plane had shot down a Ukrainian fighter jet in Ukrainian airspace the previous evening, a serious allegation of direct intervention by Russia’s armed forces.
2. BBC: A Ukrainian security spokesman has accused Russia’s air force of shooting down one of its jets while it was on a mission over Ukrainian territory.
3. TIME: A Russian plane shot down a Ukrainian jet as it was flying on military operations over east Ukraine, Reuters reports. Ukrainian military spokesperson Andriy Lysenko confirmed Thursday that a SU-25 war plane was shot down Wednesday evening by a Russian jet.
4. Telegraph: Telegraph: A Ukrainian Su-25 war plane. . A war plane of the Russian armed forces carried out a rocket attack on an Su-25 of the Ukrainian armed forces, which was carrying out missions on Ukrainian territory… was downed by a rocket fired by a Russian fighter
5. Huffington Post: A Ukrainian fighter jet was shot down Wednesday by an air-to-air missile from a Russian plane, Ukrainian authorities said.

Not exactly even and balanced reporting, taking quotes directly from the coup installed illegal Kiev government.

One which I might add due to the USA’s own laws shouldn’t even be supported. Not that the US would listen to its own laws of course.

“in accordance with the amendments introduced to the 1961 law (Foreign Assistance Act) a few years ago the provision of foreign assistance is prohibited to ‘the government of any country whose duly elected head of government is deposed by military coup or decree.’ The relevant provision is contained in 22 US Code § 8422,”

So in spite of Ukrainian provocation on a massive scale I believe that if it wasn’t for Putins current calm and rational behaviour in these tense times we could already be involved in World War III.

All because of the US neo-con and Ukrainian neo-nazi’s hatred for Russians.

It seems that even American pro-Israeli Zionists, people who would throw themselves on a bomb to protect the state of Israel, are willing to stand alongside neo-Nazi’s and anti-Semites to get their wish of a war.

In case you forgot here is John McCain with far right leader Oleh Tyahnybok in Independence Square in Kiev rousing the crowd to other-throw a legitimately elected government. One that was due to have an election in a years time anyway.

What right does an US politician have to enter another country and demand changes in leadership?

Can you imagine if Hugo Chavez, Fidel Castro or President Putin stood in Washington rabble rousing and telling the masses to other-throw the US Government?

Here is John McCain in the Ukraine meeting (on his right) far right leader Oleh Tyahnybok in Independence Square in Kiev, Ukraine, Sunday, Dec. 15, 2013.

Now just because the self-defence forces shot down Kiev “fighter” planes with their rockets it does not mean they did shoot or would shoot down a passenger jet. Would the separatists be crazy enough to shoot down a civilian airliner knowing what kind of trouble it would cause?

From a military article on “What would it take to shoot down a passenger jet”

To shoot down a commercial airliner at cruising altitude would require advanced anti-air missile systems. Among the easiest systems to employ would be man-portable air-defense systems, known as MANPADS. But some experts ruled out that possibility.

“First off, a MANPAD did not shoot down that airliner,” a former Marine Special Operations member trained in air defense systems said. “A MANPADS original purpose is for low-flying aircraft with high-heat signatures.”

“Like helicopters,” he added.

MANPADS have been known to target commercial aircraft – but usually only during takeoff and landing, when the jets are moving the slowest and are the most vulnerable. A DHL transport plane was struck by an SA-14, a type of MANPAD, shortly after departing Baghdad international airport in 2003.

“MANPADS don’t have the fuel to continue tracking a fast-moving target at high altitude,” said the special operations member, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly.

For further reading on Russian hardware that could have shot down the MH17 Plane read this.

pro-Russian separatists have denied allegations that they brought down the aircraft, saying they lack weapons systems that would be able to target an airliner at a cruising altitude near 30,000 feet. At the same time, rebels in eastern Ukraine claimed that they had shot down a Ukrainian transport plane earlier this week. That plane, an IL-76, was shot down at 21,000 ft, according to U.S. officials. Three crew members were killed.

So the Russian separatists deny they have the weapons to even shoot down the plane. However in my eyes they have a perfect right to shoot down any enemy planes that are bombing and killing their women and children in their towns.

“It is war after all” – as the Israeli’s say whilst blasting homes to pieces, but not before dropping leaflets on top first warning the occupants that their house is about to be destroyed. How kind of them.

Also why would they do something that they would know Kiev and the US would use as a pre-text to launch an even bloodier war on the East of Ukraine than they already have? Are they just stupid.

So then that leaves Russia and Kiev who have the capabilities of shooting down such an airliner.

Mistakes do happen. Remember when the US shot down the Iranian airliner Iran Air Flight 655 in 1988.

The attack took place in Iranian airspace over Iran’s territorial waters in the Persian Gulf. It was on the flight’s usual flight path and giving out the correct signal to identify that it was a commercial airliner and not military.

The aircraft, an Airbus A300 B2-203, was destroyed by SM-2MR surface-to-air missiles fired from the Vincennes who “mistook” the Iranian Airbus A300 as an attacking F-14A Tomcat fighter.

I don’t remember too much crying in the US media about that attack, but then again Iran are our enemies just like the Russians are.

We don’t or shouldn’t shed tears for “terrorists” or “separatists” who just want feel safe and secure from the neo-nazi influenced Kiev government that we shouldn’t forget was installed after a coup removed the legitimate leader of the country.

And as for Russia shooting down the plane? Well they are being the calmest most rational politicians on the world stage at the moment.

1. They are calling for a ceasefire so a proper investigation can be held.
2. They have not invaded (as claimed) the East of Ukraine – although in my eyes they have the right to if they believe the Russian speaking people who WANT to be part of Russia are under deadly attack.
3. They have not retaliated for all the sanctions the US and Europe have placed on them. They could have switched off all gas to Europe, sold all US currency and got China to as well, and then banned every single American government worker from the country including all the CIA agents on the hunt for Edward Snowden.

Instead they have just put troops on the border – a logical action considering they feel very likely an attack might be coming. Don’t forget 20 million Russians were killed by Nazis who came through the Ukraine in World War II so having a neo-Nazi government next door is not exactly comforting.

Plus the USA NEEDS Russia at the moment.

– Who was it that prevented the US being drawn into another war in Syria when they brokered a deal to get rid of Assad’s chemical weapons? Russia!

– Who is it that the US needs to help solve the Iranian nuclear weapon crisis? Russia!

– Who is it that Europe needs to fuel them every freezing winter with their gas? Russia!

– Who would it be mad to start a war with considering they have some of the most sophisticated missile technology in the world plus thousands of nuclear weapons? Russia?

So as neo-con war mongers and their limp wristed bitches Lyndsey Graham literally beg for a first nuclear strike on Russia despite any evidence they shot the plane down Obama has to be strong.

Can he?

Can he stop the neo-cons from ending the world or can he and Putin put their differences aside and admit that the Ukrainian situation is a mess and one that the US shouldn’t be supporting.

So as another Gladio 2 operation unfolds in the Ukraine and Iraq and Syria are fighting a bastard child of the CIA’s al-Qaeda e.g ISIL/ISIS. Plus Israel is bombing the hell out of Palestine due to 3 dead teenagers compared to thousands of dead Palestinian teenagers it’s madness not to have some calm at this point and wait for the facts to come in.

Whoever shot the plane down was either doing it deliberately to cause war or it was done by mistake DUE to the war on the Eastern Ukrainian people who just want to vote to be free like the people of Crimea, Kosovo, Scotland and all the other countries we are supposed to support self-determination for.

Wasn’t that the reason we supported Syrian rebels, Libyan rebels and countless other rebels when it suited us?

Are we that much of a bunch of hypocrites? The answer seems an affirmative yes.

For more of my article on the Ukrainian situation:

Can You Imagine if the Ukraine was the USA?
Western hypocrisy over Ukrainian Protests

Western hypocrisy in Ukraine

Western hypocrisy in Ukraine

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By Dark Politricks

The recent “riots” in Eastern Ukraine by people who want to federalize Ukraine or let their part of the country join Russia like Crimea is just another example of the hypocrisy of the west.

Remember when this was all going on in Kiev.

Peaceful “demonstrators” just exercising their democratic right to protest by pepper spraying and even shooting Ukrainian police officers in the streets?

At that time the western nations, the IMF, EU and the axis of war (US/UK/France) were all de-crying the crackdown on “peaceful” protesters who have now been found out to be shooting from the top of buildings at both protesters AND policemen causing the tension to increase to boiling point.

We now have evidence of this from a leaked phone call between the EU Foreign Minister and the Estonian Foreign Minister which suggests that the western nations KNEW that the snipers killing the innocent people in Kiev were actually from a sub-sect of the Maidan group of protesters.

The Estonian Foreign Minister also recalled a conversation with a doctor who treated those shot by snipers in Kiev. She said that both protesters and police were shot at by the same people. Paet stressed:

“And second, what was quite disturbing, this same Olga [Bogomolets] told as well that all the evidence shows that the people who were killed by snipers from both sides, among policemen and then people from the streets, that they were the same snipers killing people from both sides,

Ashton’s response was  “Well, yeah…that’s, that’s terrible.”, after which Paet continued:

“So that she then also showed me some photos she said that as a medical doctor, she can say that it is the same handwriting, the same type of bullets, and it’s really disturbing that now the new coalition, that they don’t want to investigate what exactly happened”.

At the end she seemed shocked by the claims but not exactly surprised.

“There is now a stronger and stronger understanding that behind the snipers, it was not Yanukovich, but it was somebody from the new coalition”, said Foreign Minister Urmas Paet to Catherine Ashton, who replied:

“I think we do want to investigate. I mean, I didn’t pick that up, that’s interesting. Gosh”.

She even says “yeah”, when he mentions this, and it seems clear that some knowledge is foreknown about a false flag coup to overthrow out the legitimate President of the country.

You can listen to the two leaders discuss the false flag attacks below.

False Flag Shooting in Kiev

Or read more about it here.

As Michel Chossudovsky says in his article: The leaders of EuroMaidan ordered the shooting of their own supporters.

We are dealing with a diabolical agenda: the deaths of protesters in Maidan square triggered by Neo-Nazi elements (supported by the West) were used to break the legitimacy of a duly elected government.

Underlying US foreign policy and CIA intelligence ops, civilian deaths are often triggered deliberately with a view to accusing the enemy and demonizing a foreign head of State or head of government

The Maidan sniper killings are, in this regard reminiscent of what occurred in Syria in mid-March 2011 at the very outset of the insurgency: civilians were killed by rooftop snipers in the border city of Daraa. The resulting casualties –without further investigation– were blamed on the government of Bashar al Assad. It was subsequently confirmed by Israeli and Lebanese press reports, that the snipers were hired mercenaries.

People like Catherine Ashton and John McCain who stood in the middle of “Freedom Square” hand in hand with fascists and neo-nazis are hypocrites and liars.

Here is John McCain in the Ukraine meeting (on his right) far right leader Oleh Tyahnybok in Independence Square in Kiev, Ukraine, Sunday, Dec. 15, 2013.

The people they stood with are now in power after an illegal coup that was authorized by the west.

These are the same Senators who take money from AIPAC and other pro-Israeli groups with one hand, and shake the hands of anti-Semites with their other. All the while Jews are leaving Ukraine scared for their safety due to some of the lesser civilized members of the new power structure that was imposed by force.

This new government kicked out a legitimate leader, Viktor Yanukovych, and replaced the whole government with a number of people who are not even supposed to be allowed to work with EU countries, especially Germany under their strict anti-Nazi laws.

An example would be the ex Chechen fighter and nationalist leader Aleksandr Muzychko, who fought against Russian troops in Chechnya and recently branded his Kalashnikov gun in front of regional authorities begging them to “try to take it away from me”.

He is also on record for making openly anti-Semitic statements as are many of the far right of the “Maidan protestors” who have been caught out by leaked phone calls and evidence showing that they were the only people on top of a building one day in any position to fire into a hotel housing RT.com reporters as well as shooting policeman down below. What better way to get a populace angry with your government?

However now they have their coup, and thrown out a legitimate leader they seem to be no longer useful to the Wests milking machine e.g the IMF that wants to double gas prices, reduce benefits by half and increase taxes.

Some of these people who helped the ex President have even turned up dead like Olexander Muzychko.

Olexander Muzychko, an ultranationalist wanted for war atrocities, was recently killed by Ukrainian special forces in a sanctioned execution by Government officials.

Muzychko was put on an international wanted list on suspicion of torturing and murdering at least 20 Russian servicemen in Chechnya in the early 2000s. After surfacing in Ukraine, he was arrested in absentia by a court in southern Russia earlier this month.

The Right Sector, along with Muzychko, is a major ally of the neo-Nazi Svoboda party led by Oleh Tyahnybok, a member of the new Ukrainian government and an active promoter of the ideas of Stepan Bandera a Ukrainian who collaborated with Nazi Germany during World War II.

Good credentials! He was involved in mass atrocities in the wartime ethnic cleansing of Poles, Jews and Russians. Just the person you want to help you get into government but not stay inside too long I suspect.

Russia has described last month’s uprising in Kiev as an illegitimate fascist coup, which resulted in Moscow taking steps to protect ethnic Russians in Ukraine.

The people of Crimea held a legal and internationally verified referendum which showed over 96.8% of the people in the Russian Black Sea Port region wanted to become part of Russia.

Crimea’s regional parliament has declared independence and applied to become part of the Russian Federation, a day after people in the Black Sea peninsula voted overwhelmingly to leave Ukraine in a referendum that most of the world has condemned as illegal.

However why is it illegal for Kosovo to vote to leave Serbia, a part of the country for hundreds of years or Scotland to order a referendum to leave the United Kingdom.

Could it be because the result doesn’t fit with the Wests ideas of “who” should be ruling which part of the world?

You only have to look at the first democratic election in Palestine to see the reaction when Hamas won!

A split country, in-fighting between Sunnis and Shiites, and a big distraction as the opposition fight each other instead of their real enemy.

However this “illegal” and “unsanctioned” move by a group of pro-Russians was seen and reported by the west as Russia invading Ukraine!

Forget the fact that since Ukraine gained independence the Russian Black Sea Fleet and the Navy personnel who run it have been allowed to carry arms and wear military uniform in Crimea for years.

These Russian military men were not invaders but sanctioned and legitimate troops who have been based in this new region of Russia under an agreement signed by both countries years ago.

Now the shoe is on the other foot

Pro-Russian demonstrators in the east of Ukraine are demanding their rights and protection of freedom from the new Ukrainian government who has threatened to send in specialist “anti terrorist” squads to oust these domestic extremists!

These people have taken over police stations and other government facilities and Russia has warned Ukraine not to do something stupid like send in the army and kill their own people.

Most of the demonstrators want to stay Ukrainian BUT in a Federal Union where each area could decide their own fate. They do not want to be in sock to the EU and permanent debt to the IMF,

Pro Russian demonstrators demand their rights be heard

Russian demonstrators take over a Ukrainian Police Station

If the pro-Russian protesters and armed militants do not leave the occupied buildings in some cities of Ukraine, the illegal government other-thrown by a pro EU mob has threatened a full-scale anti-terrorist operation.

So far the deadlines have passed and no Ukrainan forces have been deployed – thank God!

But what would happen if Ukraine DID send in their troops?

Well I guess the following:

• Lots of unarmed pro-Russian demonstrators will be killed. They will be labelled by the Western media as terrorists and domestic extremists trying to remove any sympathy from them.
• The western mouthpieces would spew out their propaganda about this being a fight for freedom and liberty and the rule of law – totally forgetting they supported an illegal coup just months ago,
• Stories like the one from the New York Times describing how bad life in South Ossetia and Abkhazia in 2008 has been since Russia took control will fill the papers, true or not.
• Russia would invade the Ukraine like they did in South Ossetia and Abkhazia in Georgia in 2008 to “protect” their “Russian speaking” people who consider themselves by all means “Russian”.
• NATO would do Fuck All but make loud noises and try to pass resolutions in the UN which will be blocked by Russia and China (at least) in the Security Council.
• If a sensible resolution was put down that let the people of the Ukraine decide for themselves whether they wanted to be run by an illegal government, a newly elected Federal government with a new constitution or split the country in two then that would make sense and let the people of the country decide their fate.
• In the event that the latter option is taken the western part of Ukraine will  suffer the austerity policies the IMF and EU has already imposed on Greece, they would see unemployment soar, taxes rise and most importantly have their gas turned off due to unpaid bills to Russia.
• What does Ukraine offer the west? Nothing really but land near the Russian border. Land that was called the “bread basket of the west” and if managed properly it could feed the world ten times over. Russia would have to invade the Eastern part of Ukraine to prevent a NATO county on its doorstep, something which was promised by Reagan to never happen if the Soviet Union fell.
• We in Europe would probably impose sanctions on Russia which would in the end back fire on us. We would have our own gas pipelines that bypass Ukraine cut off and Russia would just sell it on to China, India and other countries with high demand and lots of cash.
• If we did actually go to a “hot” war we would probably end up nuclear and say goodbye to the world. No one wants that but a war can start over any little misjudgment.  If you don’t know the story UK pop singe James Blunt, whilst a soldier in Kosovo, was ordered to “destroy” and “attack” the Russian forces that had entered the country and taken  over an airfield by General Wesley Clark. Thankfully British soldiers have some brains and think nuclear war is a bad idea and James Blunt refused the order. Luckily he was backed up British Gen Sir Mike Jackson, who said: “I’m not going to have my soldiers be responsible for starting World War III.”
• After a hot war starts who knows what would happen but by guess is we would back down like pussies and rightly so, letting Russia take control over areas of Ukraine who have always wanted to be Russian and not Nazi collaborators.

So can you see the hypocrisy here?

We allow an elected President to be forced out of power by an armed fascist and nationalist filled group of people. Some of whom have already been knocked off as they are no longer useful to the cause.

We then declare this victory as some kind of sign that people power works. Yet when the Eastern Ukrainians do exactly the same thing in support of Russia we call them terrorists, domestic extremists and Russian soldiers in disguise trying to stir up trouble. As of yet I haven’t seen any photos of Putin or his deputies in Eastern Ukraine standing on boxes with arms in the air urging the people on like John McCain did in Kievb.

However none of that matters. Putin is the great baddie of this play and he will always be portrayed as such if you get your news from the BBC, FOX, MSNBC or CNN. I am not for one minute saying RT.com is unbiased in its reporting but it is worth getting an alternative view on events before making your mind up.

Just don’t believe talking twats like Bill O’Reilly or Sean Hannity for your own view-point. Have a read of RT.com and get some opposing views.

It might just stop a war.

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If the Ukraine was the USA what would happen?

If the Ukraine was the USA what would happen?

By Dark Politricks

Can you imagine if what was occurring in the Ukraine was happening in the USA or the UK?

Policeman killed by ultra nationalists and anti-Semite thugs being put into positions of power with the help of AIPAC bought and paid for US politicians such as John McCain?

It just goes to show how the US and Europe doesn’t give a shit about using nationalist thugs and anti-semites to carry out their agenda when it means they can ebb away at Russian borders. However at home, if you dare criticise Israel you are called an anti-semite – square than one if you please?

Here is proof of John McCain meeting ultra nationalist far right leaders in Kiev recently. What right does a US politician have to enter another country and demand changes in leadership?

Here is John McCain in the Ukraine meeting (on his right) far right leader Oleh Tyahnybok in Independence Square in Kiev, Ukraine, Sunday, Dec. 15, 2013.

Can you imagine if Russian politicians turned up in Washington or London and stood with the BNP or Klu Klux Klan and demanded that the constitutionally elected President of the country stood down so that ultra nationalist thugs could take their place?

Here is one of the thugs John McCain and EU leaders want to put into positions of power threatening officials in their offices. Aleksandr Muzychko a radical Ukrainian nationalist leader lashed out at a local prosecutor with obscene language, punches and threats claiming the prosecutors were “sabotaging” their job.

“Shut the f**k up, you b*tch! Your f**king time is over,” he uttered, threatening to rope the clerk like a dog and lead him to the people on Maidan.

This “activist,” is an ex Chechen fighter who fought against Russian troops and recently branded his Kalashnikov in front of regional authorities goading them and threatening them to “try to take it away from me”.

He is also on record for making openly anti-Semitic statements as are many of the far right “protestors” who have been killing and beating policeman, shooting at politicians and rioting on a daily basis for months now.

Here are just a few photos of “demonstrators” attacking the Ukraine police.

If the US can pinch the noses of peaceful students sitting on the ground to spray pepper spray down their throats, then can can you imagine the response of US police if protesters sprayed pepper spray at THEM, or battered them as they are doing in the Ukraine by Occupy or Tea Party protesters?

They would have been shot on the spot.

Now I am not saying that the Ukrainian president who is on the run and has just given a press conference on RT.com is perfect.

He banned protests and allowed policemen to kill many of the protesters. However the people who the west is trying to put into power so that they can milk their assets and drain them through IMF loans are no better.

This whole scheme has been devised to split Ukraine from Russia who would offer them a much better deal than the EU is offering and get them into the western sphere of influence and most importantly NATO.

This was something that the USA explicitly stated would NOT happen when Gorbachev and Reagan had their meetings and the Soviet Union split up.

The west promised not to encroach on Russian areas of influence but this has blatantly been broken as the USA realised they were the only super power and believed they could do as they pleased despite previous agreements.

First Georgia became a US proxy after a “colour” revolution, and with US/Israeli help tested the Russian military when they killed peace keepers and bombed the breakaway territory of South Ossetia during the start of the Chinese Olympics in 2008. However Russia proved the west wrong and humiliated them in this illegal war and now half of South Ossetia is under Russian control.

The West then moved into the southern states of Russia, building air bases, using their proxy Islamic terrorists to stir up trouble and then invading Afghanistan to get even more air bases, surrounding Russia, plus the plan of an oil pipeline to rival the Russian one bringing gas and oil to Europe and ports in the south.

It just amazes me that people like Catherine Ashton (EU) and John McCain, who are against nationalism at home are prepared to enter a sovereign country, talk to neo-nazis (people they would never talk to at home), and stir up trouble in a country they have no business being in.

If I was Putin, I would invade Ukraine right now, at least the eastern half and Crimea who wants to stay connected to Russia, and then see what balls the NATO agitators really have.

I cannot believe the US or Europe want to cause shit with Russia when they need their help with Syria and Iran so I doubt they would do anything if that happened apart from make loud noises and thump their chests.

However Putin can see his country being surrounded by the west (NATO) and from a historical perspective (watch Oliver Stones untold history of the United States) if you want some context. The Russians are paranoid to the extreme about being invaded due to being attacked so many times in the past.

Remember whilst the UK and US lost less than a million men in World War II, Russia lost over 20 million! Whatever you are taught in school about World War II, the US/UK did not win the war in Europe, Russia did. They beat us to Berlin and they destroyed the majority of the German army.

Also they were invaded by the Germans twice in the 20th century (World War I and II) and before that by Napoleon.

There is a saying in Russia, “give a German a gun and before long they will turn it at Russia”. If you don’t know your history then you should note that when Germany invaded the Ukraine in WWII, many Ukrainians treated them as liberators and even joined their ranks to fight the Soviets.

Therefore the neo-nazi element in the Ukraine has been around for a long time and Russia has a right to fear it.

If the west is so keen to allow neo-nazis to take power in a state that they want to join NATO and the EU then we must ask ourselves, are we becoming a fascist empire or do we just have no morals when it comes to taking over countries by any means necessary.

For more info read about Gladio 2 (Sibel Edmonds) and how the US used nationalists to other throw regimes in the 80’s and 90’s and then changed to Islamic extremists when it suited them (al-Qaeda, al-Nusra Front etc).

This is the first part of the 5 part series with James Corbett. For the others go to this youtube.com link.

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